You're Not Broken, You're Misaligned | Part 2

Summary: In Part 2, Laura and Katie get practical about self-regulation and building real resilience. Laura shares her favourite tools for clearing energy, staying grounded and managing the relentless stress of modern life from forest bathing and movement to showers, dimmer switches and the surprising truth about caffeine and alcohol.

They also have a candid and refreshingly honest conversation about cannabis, alcohol, medication and what it really means to be present versus numbed out. A must-listen for anyone who wants to feel better without overhauling their entire life.

Key Takeaways

→ Get outside. Our homes are energetically and physically toxic compared to fresh air and nature. Even a short time on a dirt trail or grass in bare feet makes a measurable difference.

→ Move your body. We hold negative energy in our muscles and joints. A 10 to 15 minute walk can release a huge amount of it. You do not need a gym.

→ Showers cleanse more than your body. Water runs through all your energetic layers too. Ocean is best, lake is good, shower is great. After a bath, always rinse off.

→ Dim your lights as the sun goes down. Bright lights right before bed work against your nervous system. Every dimmer switch matters.

→ Background frequency music changes your energy all day. Tibetan bowls, Indian chanting, frequency music played softly in the background it affects you on levels you may not even notice.

→A lot of what gets labelled adult ADHD is stress. Not a chemical imbalance. Self-regulation tools should always be tried before medication.

→ The problem is not the substance. It is unconscious use. Whether it is alcohol, cannabis, caffeine or anything else, if you are doing it to numb out rather than supplement, there is something worth looking at.

→ Being fully present is the goal. Self-regulation is what gets you there. When you are in a proper regulated state, it does not matter what is going on around you. You are at peace within yourself.

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Disclaimer: Katie is not a medical professional and she is not qualified to diagnose any conditions. The advice and information she gives is based on her own experience and research. It does not take the place of medical advice. Always consult a medical professional first before you try anything new.

Transcript

speaker-0 (01:12)
Welcome back to the Catapult Effect podcast. We are continuing the conversation with Laura Horvick and in case you missed part one, we did a deep dive into the intuition, how you can start to find signs for yourself and how that can actually translate into more ease in your everyday life. And as we're wrapping up part one, Laura started to talk about the importance of self-regulation and one of the simple things you can do is start your day.

doing a short meditation practice. It doesn't have to be long, but we're gonna dive more into that self-regulation, the importance of it, and how to build resilience in this crazy world that we have going. So come join us, we're gonna pick that up. So thank you again for being here with me, Laura. So I wanna continue this path of self-regulation, and think I brought this up on another episode where we talking about these,

fundamental, these foundational pieces that we want to get in, which really is self-regulation as you're talking about it. And there's a quote that comes to mind from Krishnamurti, which is, it is no measure of success to be well, or a no measure of health to be well adjusted to a supremely unhealthy society.

speaker-1 (02:20)
I love the guy. Yeah, that's great. That's perfect. Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:23)
I love that quote and I actually included in my book, but one of the things that the convenience of society and all these devices are is it's pulling us away from these things that we used to do for regulation. we already talked about quickly like starting to get into just starting your day with a meditation and how that can change your entire energy for the day. What are some other pieces that you would recommend that people start to lace in?

to help themselves get more regulated, Laura.

speaker-1 (02:54)
One of the best and the easiest things to do, and now that the weather is finally starting to change for most of us, at least in the Northern Hemisphere, is being outside, being in nature. I love the Japanese term, they call it now forest bathing. It's really being in nature and the more wilderness-like, I shall say, that you can get into.

the better the energy, but even if it's only in your backyard, know, at a community park, you know, on a trail, whatever it is, just being outside, okay? Because one of the biggest things now is our homes are so, I'm just gonna say poisoned and they sort of stop me, but I am gonna say poisoned.

because it's the electronics, the chemicals, everything. Our homes are just become almost toxic waste dumps. They really have. And even if you're trying to be as natural and as aware of these things and have as little of this in your home as possible, honestly, these days it's almost impossible unless you live in a cabin in the woods. Yeah.

So being outside and being around trees and being around plants and being in nature and having the sunshine on you and the breeze blow around and the air, okay, at least it's, you know, it depends on where you live. But honestly, usually not, they're saying 99%, okay, 98 % of the time they're saying the air outside is much better, much healthier than the air inside your home, of where you live. Okay.

So yes, so fresh air, sunshine, the energetic effect of trees and plants and the grounding effect of actually being on the earth. So there's your clue too. You don't want to be on a sidewalk. It's better than not being outside at all. But if you can get on a trail, a dirt trail, you know, there's that wonderful thing that makes sure...

some of you, at least some of your roads are dirt or something. There's a good saying about that too. And as the weather warms, if you can be walking around on the grass or whatever on the beach or whatever in your bare feet, it's even better. Yes. Even better. Because then we're getting into the earthing and all that wonderful stuff. So that's a huge one. The other one is activity. And I'm using the word activity as a

speaker-0 (05:11)
Yes.

speaker-1 (05:23)
to exercise. As soon as I say exercise people think, I got go to the gym for three hours or whatever. No, that's not what I'm talking about. Okay, I'm talking about active physical activity and this is you know it's called self regulation so guess what you get to choose what you use. Nice. You get to choose what you use. Anyway

speaker-0 (05:40)
I

speaker-1 (05:43)
Yeah, so whether it's walking whether it's dancing whether it's yoga whether it's you know Tai Chi I don't care what movement it is But just move your body. okay. We really need and in our cultures. There's Western cultures, especially We're simply not moving enough. We spend way too much much time doing what we're doing right now. It's like sitting with our butts in chairs

and anything you can do that gets your butt out of a chair and your body actually moving and stretching because, and I'm going to tell you right now, if you're over the age, what am I going to use? Okay, 50. If you're the age of nine, just checking because they always get their five cents in there. Okay, they said 45. Okay. So especially if you're over the age of 45, okay.

you need to be moving your body. You really need to be moving your body because, and the other side of it is a lot of people don't realize this, but we hold a huge amount of negative energy in our muscles and our joints. Okay. So if you're not doing something to activate and stretch your body and move your muscles and move your joints, those negative,

It's really hard to release those negative energies and just simply going for a 10 or 15 minute walk can release a huge amount of negative energy. The other good one, okay, this one you don't even have to leave home for is water. And I, you know, people, okay, I would stay away from baths. Okay. We can go into why if you want.

But showers are the key, okay? If you're at home, when you're at home. I always recommend to my clients, if you've come home from work or if you've been out and you've come home and you feel horrible energetically and you literally have that feeling that you wanna have a shower, okay? Go have the shower, okay? Yeah, the wonderful thing is that's exactly why, okay?

The wonderful thing about showers is it not only cleanses your physical body, but the act of showering also runs through all your aura, all your energetic bodies, which also helps to clean out all your energetic bodies. If you are out in nature, if you can go for a swim, awesome, even better. Water is magic. We're only just now finding out, and we don't even have a clue how...

great water is, trust me, it's just like, it's an amazing thing. And it pulls all the stuff out of you, especially salt water. So ocean is best, lake is good, shower is great. So yeah, I'm gonna tell you in the summertime, this is honest truth. I haven't.

usually have at least two showers, sometimes three showers if I'm not out and about in near a lake or ocean or something. Yeah, I'll have like three showers, two or three showers a day.

speaker-0 (08:45)
Nice, nice. And I'm just going to take a guess here that perhaps the bath isn't the best idea because even as the negative energy is in your body, now you're soaking in it.

speaker-1 (08:56)
Yes, you're soaking in your, I always say you're soaking in your own crap, both physically and energetically, because all the stuff from the outside of your body, the physical stuff is in the water. And also the energetic that the water is pulling out of your body, you're sitting in it. So what I suggest for baths is you shouldn't be so like, cause I, every once in while too, I like to have an Epsom salts bath or essential oils or something like that.

You shouldn't be soaking in that bath any longer than 10 minutes. And whenever you have a bath, I don't care what kind of bath it is, you should pull the plug, stand there and shower off before you get out of the tub. Okay. Always have a quick shower after you have a bath of any description. And honestly, you shouldn't be in a bath for any longer than 10 minutes. And don't get me to go into the horrors of public hot tubs.

speaker-0 (09:49)
I don't even want to touch that.

speaker-1 (09:50)
Even the physical side of it's bad enough, but if you want to look at the energetic side of it, my goodness.

speaker-0 (09:57)
No, and for those of you who are more rooted in science that are listening, want to remind you that literally everything is energy. And if you don't believe me, you can go back to Einstein.

speaker-1 (10:07)
Yep, everything's energy. We can get into the sex talk too, but that's a whole other.

speaker-0 (10:08)
equals MC squared.

Yeah,

that's a whole other episode. I do want to make sure that we're tapping in because you've already given us really great tips for tapping into our intuition, building that up, ways to regulate. that's something that I'm finally hearing more and more people talk about that and having people help understand like, look, one of the reasons that stress is an all time high, it's not just that fear messaging that's out there and polarization.

It's because you aren't using your body the way it's intended. We're supposed to be in nature, out in lights. We're not supposed to have bright lights on in our house right up until the time we go to bed. We're ignoring what we were biologically meant to do.

speaker-1 (10:52)
Well, that's another thing you can do. Like something simple, like I do this, every light, I think every light switch in my home is now on a dimmer. So as soon as the sun starts to go down, I start dimming all my lights. So by the time that I go to bed, there's very few, it's very, very soft lighting. So it prepares you, it's like gearing down on a.

speaker-0 (11:04)
Nice.

speaker-1 (11:19)
cycle or in a car, it gears you down. Very, very important. I'm glad you brought that up. And during the winter, the other thing that I had heard about for years, but I never got one, I actually got one this winter because we had a very dark and rainy, we're always raining on the West Coast, but it was extremely rainy this year. I got myself one of those happy lights, one of those sun lights. And it actually made a huge difference.

because we just didn't get the light that we normally get. So there's all kinds of little things like that that you can do for yourself. The other thing is music. I didn't really talk about that, but I have music, except of course, when I'm with a client or with somebody lovely like you, I turn my music off. I always have music like meditation. I do a lot of those frequency, frequency musics.

I do a lot of Indian chanting music, Tibetan bowls, all kinds of things. And I always have that all day, lowly in the background. Okay, that is incredibly powerful. Cause that affects you on so many levels. We don't even want to get started into that conversation, but that's it. See, there's so many simple things that people can do. And I'm going to tell you too, we'll get a little bit, cause I'm a science girl too.

But I keep hearing all this crazy stuff and they're calling it adult ADHD.

And you know what? That is nothing but stress. ADHD is a real thing for both, people. is a chemical imbalance. Okay. But the amount of people that have been diagnosed with ADHD is insane. Okay. Those people do not have chemical imbalances. What they have is stress imbalances.

and their symptoms are being caused by stress. And when I say stress, it can be all kinds of stress. It can be environmental stress, can be noise stress, it can be anxiety, it can be everything that we've talked about, okay? And all those are major, major, major stresses. And the biggest stressor is the lack these days, because nobody's being taught how to self-regulate. And if you're not being taught,

how to self-regulate, you have no tools to use against the immense numbers and kinds of stress that we're all dealing with these days. Okay. So quit labeling yourself with all this crap, especially if somebody starts throwing drugs at you for it. Okay. Because you should be trying, there's so many things that you modalities and things.

simple things that you can do before you... Drugs are an absolute last resort, okay? There's some wonderful drugs out there that we should be very feeling blessed that we have, but most of it is... and most of it causes more problems than it solves.

speaker-0 (14:25)
Yes, yes, thank you. I'm like over here going yes, yes, yes, yes. Everything you're saying. I'm preaching, I'm preaching to the- Yes, yes, no, but I'm like yes, please continue, please continue.

speaker-1 (14:32)
fire.

And it's

important and it's really important for children. Like I find what's happening with kids now and a lot of these diagnosis with children is simply because people don't want to bother actually working with children. So we're just going to medicate them and the power of the school and these teachers and stuff. you know, I feel for the teachers because part of the issue is they have too many kids in their class and they simply

don't have the bandwidth to deal with these kids one-on-one. But I can tell you, these kids do not need to be on all these drugs. the backlash from the adults that are gonna be turned out from these kids who have been medicated since they were five is gonna be horrific. I don't even wanna think about it. You know, my guy, I'm not spreading fear porn. I'm telling you this because forewarned is forearmed.

Okay, my mother loved this thing. I heard this all the time when I was growing up. It's absolutely true. Where was I going with this? This is what happens to me.

speaker-0 (15:39)
Not fear porn for more.

speaker-1 (15:41)
is forearmed. yeah we the problems that are going to ensue from this are going to be nightmarish. Yeah they really are because what those drugs also do is they prevent the young children from learning how and from having any experience on how to self-regulate themselves because they're medicated.

speaker-0 (15:43)
yeah, we need.

speaker-1 (16:07)
And adults in some a lot of the same thing happens with alcohol and drugs Okay recreational drugs and you know, I've always been Here you hear it here. I was always throughout my life. I've been pretty 420 friendly. No, you're you know what? talking about.

speaker-0 (16:29)
Totally, yeah, I talk about cannabis on here all the time. Okay, okay. Very 420 friendly. We're recording too.

speaker-1 (16:34)
Just I know it is.

okay. Yeah, it is 420. It's 40,000 that came up. I had a very liberal view about that. My view has come, I've really clawed that back. think used responsibly and used in a limited way is fine. But I know a lot of adults who grew up in my generation who are still using it.

And I tell you, if you're using it on a daily basis, and I know people who using it on a daily basis, no. Again, it's the same problem. You preventing yourself from learning how to self-regulate yourself. You're using it as a crutch. There's many uses for it. It should not be just like anything else, just like alcohol.

Actually, I've actually redone my thing on alcohol too. God, I'm to sound preachy today. But I used to think that alcohol and real moderation was fine. The more experience and the older I get and the more I talk to my guides about it, because this wasn't something I usually brought up with them. Really, there is no safe amount of alcohol. Okay.

There really isn't. But I'll tell you, I'll be honest right now, I am not going to become a total non-drinker because I've gone, and I've been doing this for years, but I don't like beer, so I have cider. Okay, cider is kind of like my beer and they have about the same amount of alcohol and wine. I haven't drank hard, I can't even remember the last time I had to have hard alcohol. And I'll tell you something energetically that I was told very young about alcohol.

Hard alcohol versus fermented alcohols. Fermented actually has a much more not, it's still alcohol. Okay, don't get me wrong in that. But in terms of energetic frequency, it has a much more positive energetic frequency. Hard alcohol, distilled alcohol has a very, very negative energy frequency, okay?

So if you want to do anything to help yourself, quick, you know, kick all the hard alcohol, all the silt stuff to the curb. If you want to drink, drink in moderation and only drink fermented products, which is wine, beer and cider. Basically, that's it. In terms of alcohol, I mean, in terms of with alcohol content. Or if you choose, you know, become a, and there's a lot of people making that choice these days.

speaker-0 (18:57)
Nice.

speaker-1 (19:07)
I just don't drink at all, but I love my wine and I love my cider. but I I very moderately, very, very, very moderately. And the way you moderate it, you people say, well, how do you do that? I said, just make a rule. can only unless it's a really special occasion. The only time you can drink is I say Friday, Saturday night. That's it. Maybe on Sunday. you're. That's how easy it is. OK.

speaker-0 (19:31)
Thanks.

speaker-1 (19:34)
We think all these things are really hard. Actually, there's actually very simple solutions to most of these things. That's also type. That also comes under the heading of self-regulation. if you are, and even coffee, okay, I'm gonna get real hate mail now, even coffee, that's a stimulant. That's a huge stimulant.

speaker-0 (19:46)
Yeah.

speaker-1 (19:57)
And anything, actually any caffeinated beverage, and there's a lot of them now, okay, they have nothing to do with coffee. You gotta really restrict your, I don't drink anything caffeinated anymore. Even my tea, like I was never a coffee drinker, but I was a big tea drinker. And most of the teas that I would drink were the ones that were the highest in caffeine. And actually a lot of people don't know this. Some teas are actually higher in caffeine than coffee is.

Yeah, there's the black teas, the real strong teas. They're actually higher in caffeine than a lot of coffee.

speaker-0 (20:32)
Did not know that. Good to know.

speaker-1 (20:35)
There

you learn something every day. Okay. But no, only drink now only drink herbal teas without caffeine in them. That's all I drink.

speaker-0 (20:46)
Nice. And that's, I want to chime in here before we wrap up and about cannabis alcohol and caffeine. And I applaud you. I'm on my way to going back to being caffeine free. I love my chai tea latte and I, with winter, I tend to get a little less energy. And so I added, like, I literally give myself a six ounce measure of coffee that goes into my chai latte in the morning. And then I have this,

Sugar-free chocolate that has ashwagandha in it that doesn't have any it has some steam. I do a mocha chai latte. That's so good. But that's it's not a ton of caffeine, but I I made the choice in 2018 when I was still disabled that I didn't want to drink anymore or I was gonna just take a year off initially because I had so much pain. I'm like, I'm gonna try anything and I realized actually that I had been depending on alcohol too much and

speaker-1 (21:17)
Yeah, I have some of that.

speaker-0 (21:40)
Knowing myself, it was easier for me to just say I'm not gonna drink anymore. And so I haven't had a drink. It'll be eight years in July. And I love that so many other people are not drinking anymore. Because initially when I stopped, like the question was like, did you go through a program? I'm like, no, I just decided I'm gonna drink. it was the first 90 days, I'm like, this shouldn't be this hard. You may have had an alcohol problem,

speaker-1 (22:06)
being like, yeah, kind of do it. Yeah, there's a lot of people out there with an alcohol that wouldn't be necessarily clinically classed as alcoholic. But they have a serious and at one point, I would say that I did too. I can remember even with my wine, like way back when I was still working in corporate, like there was a time when every single night I would come home and the first thing that I would do when I got home or

pretty much after I'd peeled out of my suit and got into my comfortable clothes, I'd be pouring myself a glass of wine. And I tell you, it's nothing. And, you know, it's nothing to sit there and go through in an evening. Like if you start drinking when you walk in the door, it's nothing to go through an entire bottle of wine on your own in one evening. yeah. So what stopped me is one time I went and I started looking through my debit card.

And it was like wine store, wine store, wine store, wine. And I went, holy, I really didn't realize how much money and it was an astronomical figure, by the way, per month that I was actually spending on wine. And it's not even the money was bad enough. But then I started thinking about God, that's I am drinking the vast majority of that wine because Tim didn't drink wine. He was a beer drinker.

So it was like, and I'm consuming all that wine. Yeah. yeah. It's easy to do. It's easy to do. That's all I'm saying.

speaker-0 (23:40)
It's socially acceptable too. So no one's going to really tell you like the guy at the liquor store isn't going to be like you shouldn't buy that. Like no one's going to stop you. Like I know I'll have that moment where I'll notice a cocktail near checkout. And I'm like, I could drink any time I want to. I just I don't want to. It's now sobriety is more of my identity than than having a drink. But I I do want to touch on the cannabis thing because you you mentioned that was really important is like

our body actually has an endocannabinoid system in it. And when we utilize that properly with therapeutic doses, which by the way, you cannot get in the dispensary because most doses are actually higher than what you need. So you're blasting your receptors and giving yourself too much, which makes you feel high, which feels really good. But when you actually take it in a therapeutic way, and I only know one person.

that knows how to do that. And the vast majority of the cannabis is CBD, not necessarily THC-A, which is the active psychedelic form. And that is the stuff that I take daily. I'll be totally honest, I do still like to have recreational, to have like a little bit in the evening sometimes, but the therapeutic is every day. But when it's therapeutic, there's no psychoactive side effects. So I take...

speaker-1 (24:53)
Well, and you're also talking about microdosing. Yeah, you're talking about microdosing too. That's very, different. Well, you're mainly doing CBD. Right.

speaker-0 (25:03)
but

my nighttime dose for THC to sleep and I was born with a sleeping disorder. So I actually take 10 milligrams at night, but again, I'm not high. It makes me tired and I actually have a higher dose than most people. And again, that's due to the sleeping disorder I was born with that I've done tons of nervous system work to a point where I can even have that regulated sleep, even though the THC does still help. But what's beautiful is when you got the right dose as your body acclimates,

you walk off the dose. Like there'll be a time in the future where 10 milligrams I'm waking up going, my God, I'm hung over. That's the time to drop it down to eight. So my body will tell me when I don't need it as much. And that's a big difference between recreational use and numbing, escaping using a crutch, and using something as a supplement.

speaker-1 (25:53)
Yeah, yeah. absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I'm not I'm not pulling on anybody's parade. But yeah, it's really honestly, it's for me. The important thing is awareness. Because if you're not doing if we do so many things unconsciously, and if you're doing anything, I don't care what it is, if you're doing anything unconsciously, then you got an issue.

speaker-0 (26:05)
Yes.

speaker-1 (26:16)
doing something and you're consciously aware of it and you know what's going on and you know the fact of that you're using it as a crutch or as a supplement to numb yourself out because the whole thing is about being present, okay? And this is the problem. All these things, drugs, alcohol, some people's sex and gambling, we could go on and on and on.

Because if you, don't care what you're using, if you're numbing yourself out, there's a real issue. There's a problem. Okay. Because what we need to be is not numbed out. We need to be fully aware and present. And a lot of people can't handle that. And it's because they don't know how to self-regulate. Cause if you're proper, if you're in a proper state, it doesn't matter what's going on around you. You are at, you are at peace within yourself.

And a lot of people, they look at me and they go, yeah, right. I don't believe that's possible. It really is. Trust me.

speaker-0 (27:15)
No.

feels so good to get there too.

speaker-1 (27:23)
Yeah, it feels so good to get there. Yeah.

speaker-0 (27:25)
Look, I could talk to you all day, but I want to put a nice bow on this really fun conversation. And please tell the listener where they can find you, Laura.

speaker-1 (27:35)
Probably the best place to find out more information about me is on my website, which is www.spiritspeaks2.me. Or you can, if you want to set up an appointment or consultation or something, you can just email me at supersimple. It's just laurahorwig at gmail.com. And I know that the lovely Katie is going to have all my...

in the show notes because I'm on, I'm all over Facebook, I'm on Insta, I do a little bit on Axe, I'm on LinkedIn, so I'm not hard to find. Let's just put it that way.

speaker-0 (28:08)
Good, yeah, and we will make sure all your social links, your email, your website, everything is out there so that the person is like, my God, I need Laura's help. And I just want to acknowledge your level of skill and your like so many times in this conversation on like she's reading my energy. She's reading my energy. So I just want to acknowledge. You're definitely gifted in there. Like I felt like a lot of it you were talking to me. So just thank you so much, Laura.

speaker-1 (28:35)
You're and

thank you for your, got great energy too. And I love talking to people with great energy and especially when we connect really well. So that's great. And you've got a good following too. You've got a good, I like, I can feel the energy of your followers and your people who listen to your shows. So that's a really good energy too.

speaker-0 (28:55)
get to work with the coolest people. I love, love, love the people who come to work with me to, to, yeah, I, I, I agree. They have the best energy. They are some of the coolest people I could ever hope to know.

speaker-1 (29:07)
Awesome.

speaker-0 (29:08)
Awesome. Well, thank you for being a part of it. Okay, I think we will. I think we will.

speaker-1 (29:10)
to do 3.0 then.

But that means we have to do 4.02 because you...

speaker-0 (29:18)
Well, let's wrap our 2.0 for now and we'll leave it for later. But thank you so much for joining me, Laura. And thank you to the listener who has joined me. I know you have your choice of so much to listen to out there on the web. And I appreciate you taking the time to listen to this. And I encourage you to implement something that Laura talked about today into your life, whether it is one of the regulation techniques, meditation, start to ask your guides for signs, whatever that is for you, just take one step from this podcast.

Integrate it into your life and see what changes. And until next time, please be well.